wing e-mail lists for the last month or so, that the health care bill will allow the government to decide, you know, who gets surgery or who gets transplants or something along those lines. and this is just, you know, it's kind of a continuation of this kind of aggressive ignorance that is on the far, you know, the far fringe of the right wing movement that's been going on since, you know, since the election, when people were questioning whether or not obama's a citizen. and that's still going on, like the e-mails that are going around, come protest health care bill, and come demand that obama show his birth certificate. it's all tied up in the same kind of ignorance. >> i'm curious, liz, we see the shouting matches. what about the tenor of things online and on the blogs? how is it going? >> well, actually, i'm on a number of those e-mail lists that, you know, conservative bloggers and libertarian bloggers are contributing to and i haven't heard any calls for obama to present his birth certificate. i think there's pretty widespread recognition that the president is, in fact, a u.s.